2003-10-24: Fall 2003

Minutes, SSRIC Meeting, Sacramento
Oct. 24 2003



Bettinger, Campbell (SSDBA), Chico,
Lascher, MacIntosh, Nelson, Reibel, Ross, Shaffer


1) Conference call
with Ilona Einowski of UC Data (Berkeley) re: Access to Field Poll data via UC
Data. She proposes two options:


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Limited Access


1 Year

  • FTP
    Access to all Field files



Full Service


3 Years

  • FTP
    Access to all Field files



  • Question
    Item search utility (from UCSD)



  • .sda
    format versions of all Field files going forward




Council determines that password access to UC Data-housed
Field files is not practicable from a security point of view; IP authentication
would be less trouble and far more secure.


Council decides to request intermediate service level, which
would provide FTP access and item search via IP authentication access but not
.sda file conversion.


Council called Ilona back and requested a quote for this
intermediate service level. Informal
Council estimates are that Ilona’s quote will come in at approx. $10,000. style='mso-spacerun:yes'> The informal consensus was that a quote in
this approximate range for this level of service would be acceptable.


Council also authorized Randy MacIntosh, together with a
representative of UC Data, to negotiate an agreement with Field to provide all
future files in .sda format at no additional charge.



2) Presentation by CSUSF computer team led by Andrew
Roderick to present their projected Data
and propose it as a possible
alternative to SSDBA.


Planned interface has excellent search and book marking
functionality, will have good metadata, but is still on the drawing board. style='mso-spacerun:yes'> Will not be ready in time to replace SSDBA
next academic year. It was not clear to
all present that the service would add enough value to justify the cost. style='mso-spacerun:yes'>



3) Spring student
research conference


Reibel reported space is reserved and budget is committed
for all expenses except prize money for award winners. style='mso-spacerun:yes'> Council decided that, in keeping with
precedent, SSDBA will fund one prize of $100.


Reibel asked for suggestions for a keynote speaker. style='mso-spacerun:yes'> Members suggested Gray Davis, legislative
analyst Elizabeth Hill, Jack Pitney (Political scientist at Claremont
Colleges), and Susan Pincus (L.A. Times pollster). style='mso-spacerun:yes'> Reibel and Korey had come up with Joel Kotkin
(Pepperdine futurist), Dowell Myers (USC demographer), and our own Gene Turner
and/or possibly his research partner, Jim Allen, as possible speakers. style='mso-spacerun:yes'> Council left the arrangements to Korey and
Reibel’s discretion.



4) Future of SSDBA:


Council members present agreed that no repository would be
necessary for data available to SSRIC affiliates, provided the following are in


a) style='mso-spacerun:yes'> access to ICPSR Direct

b) style='mso-spacerun:yes'> arrangement for access to Field data,
presumably via UC Data

c) style='mso-spacerun:yes'> Chancellor’s Office to handle bookkeeping and
IP authentication issues

Chancellor’s Office support for SSRIC


Chancellor’s Office to be advised that Council will remain
valuable in the absence of SSDBA in its role promoting quantitative teaching
and research; maintaining and expanding the Teaching Resources Depository, and
promoting training initiatives on CSU campuses.
Specific requests to the Chancellor’s Office to include travel funding
and release time for a faculty TRD Webmaster.


Those present expressed optimism that arrangements could be
made for continued access to Roper data, but also a general consensus that
Roper data considerations should not delay planning for a transition away from


Lascher, MacIntosh and Nelson will draft an SSRIC proposal
for academic 2004-2005 that does not include the SSDBA but does include
continued data subscriptions, as well as support for the data access,
administrative and SSRIC services detailed in points a through d above. style='mso-spacerun:yes'> This draft proposal will be circulated to
Council members before the February meeting of the SSRIC. style='mso-spacerun:yes'> If necessary, proxies will be solicited so
that if the membership supports the proposal it can be officially adopted at
the February meeting.