2001-05-05: Spring 2001

Minutes of the
Meeting of May 5, 2001

At California
State University, Sacramento


style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Present style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>: Ted Anagnoson (scribe) [Los Angeles]; Nan Chico [Hayward], Jim
Ross [Bakersfield], Jon Ebeling (Chico), Ted Lascher (Chair) [Sacramento], John
Korey [Pomona], Tony Hernandez [SSDBA, Los Angeles], Ed Nelson [Fresno], Jae
Emenhiser [Humboldt], Rich Taketa [San Jose], Elliott Barkan [San




style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Recommendations for ICPSR
Summer Awards



  1. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Ebeling presented
    recommendations for Dr. Amy Liu, Professor of Sociology at CSU Sacramento
    to receive $1,800 to attend two one-week courses, and Dr. Ward Rodriguez,
    Professor of Psychology and Statistics at CSU Hayward, to receive $1,200
    to attend one one-week long course.

  2. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Recommendations


style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Letter to Deans style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'> (Lascher). style="mso-spacerun: yes">


  1. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Lascher sent a letter
    to Deans where members had supplied him with the name and address of the
    relevant Dean.

  2. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Discussion of the need
    for alternates for members who attend meetings rarely. style="mso-spacerun: yes"> Lascher is contacting members about the
    designation of alternates.

  3. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Info will be sent also
    to alternates, who will be added to the mailing list. style="mso-spacerun: yes">


style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Student Research Conference style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'> (Lascher).


  1. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Consensus that the
    numbers for the conference this year were very good. style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 26 papers were signed up, representing
    10 campuses, and all but two paper presenters attended and presented their

  2. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Discussion of online
    registration – hard to keep track of registrants using this system. style="mso-spacerun: yes">

  3. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>PowerPoint
    presentations are still a real problem because of the absence of classroom
    presentation equipment. General
    consensus to bring transparencies or other backups. style="mso-spacerun: yes">

  4. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>The conference is at
    San Bernardino next year.


style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>ICPSR style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'> (Korey). style="mso-spacerun: yes">


  1. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Direct access to data –
    being tested now. Next year this
    is to be the preferred method.

  2. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>A substantial question
    is what the role of the official representative will be with direct access
    to data as the preferred method for most campuses. style="mso-spacerun: yes"> One consideration here is that ORs are
    now as likely to be librarians as they are to be faculty. style="mso-spacerun: yes">

  3. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>ICPSR is wrestling with
    what a fair pricing mechanism should be in this circumstance. style="mso-spacerun: yes"> The price of the ICPSR data is
    inexpensive compared with other commercial databases. style="mso-spacerun: yes"> How much of the pricing should be based
    on the quantity of usage? One
    possibility is the JSTOR model, using the Carnegie classification scheme
    for universities (under which most CSUs are MA level institutions). style="mso-spacerun: yes">

  4. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Other things that are
    happening – some data is available only in a special secure room because
    of the identifiability of the data sources and records. style="mso-spacerun: yes">

  5. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>What should we do? style="mso-spacerun: yes"> Korey said he would have a better sense
    in June after the next ICPSR Board meeting.

  6. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>For the OR meeting in
    the fall, the ICPSR pays for five round-trip air fares to Detroit/Ann
    Arbor; the person traveling is responsible for room and some meals. style="mso-spacerun: yes"> Some meals are provided. style="mso-spacerun: yes"> The next meeting is 10/25-27/01. style="mso-spacerun: yes">


style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Chancellor’s Office –
Payment for Field and ICPSR


  1. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>m / s / p (Barkan) –
    that if we cannot obtain a decision on funding for the ICPSR and Field in
    writing by 5/15/01, we would request a meeting with David Ernst and
    Richard West by the end of the month.
    Unanimously approved.

  2. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>[Anagnoson insert – I
    have just been elected to the Statewide Senate, if that could be of use. style="mso-spacerun: yes"> I just attended the organizational
    meeting, although the first regular meeting is just after Labor Day at
    this stage.]


style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Social Science Data Base



  1. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>A new feature is online
    registration for accounts, with the user selecting his or her own
    password. The sponsor of a student
    account then gets email and grants access through going to the SSDBA www

  2. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Student accounts expire
    the end of June each year. Prior
    to 6/30 of each year, the faculty sponsor is notified and told to tell Tony
    that the project is continuing and the account needs to continue
    also. Accounts are good for one
    year at a time.

  3. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Last year’s annual
    report is almost done.

  4. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Last year, $31,504 was
    rolled over into this year.

  5. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Field Polls – most
    recent are not on site.

  6. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Human Subjects Review –
    unanimous feeling that with secondary data, human subjects review is not
    necessary and redundant. This came
    up vis a vis a faculty member at Long Beach. Tony is to get in touch with her and see if this is a
    continuing problem; if so, the council will revisit the notion of putting
    something up on the www site about the non-need for human subjects review
    when data are secondary and review has taken place on the campus where
    data are collected or with the organization that originally collected the
    data. [There is also the obvious
    point that people cannot be placed at risk with secondary analysis, but
    this is so obvious one wonders where the LB people are.]

  7. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>2000 General Social
    Survey – very late. Nelson is
    calling Roper about it. It is to
    be available at the end of May.


style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Field Institute Programs style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>.


  1. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Lascher stated that he
    was the fellow last year and had still not been paid. style="mso-spacerun: yes"> He is to inquire with Field as to the
    current status.

  2. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>No consensus on when
    the Field Research Conference should be held. This year it is 6/8/01.


style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>NSF Proposal style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'> (Nelson). style="mso-spacerun: yes">


  1. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Nelson reported that he
    is reworking the NSF proposal in the light of the reviewers’
    comments. He expects to have the
    proposal submitted for the round beginning in early June. style="mso-spacerun: yes">


style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Mailing list style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'> (Nelson). style="mso-spacerun: yes">


  1. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>The mailing list was
    emailed to reps recently; please update.
    Eliminate FERPs; put in new faculty; whatever seems most


style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Update on 01-02 meetings style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>.


  1. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Humboldt, October 5-6 –
    Saturday workshop may be on Census 2000.

  2. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Fresno, February 8-9
    (Fish Camp)

  3. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>San Bernardino, April
    26-27 or May 3-4.

  4. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>In Fish Camp, the place
    is the Tenaya Lodge, where rooms will be $99 for a single or double. style="mso-spacerun: yes"> Ed is to send out the info on making
    reservations. The number at Tenaya
    Lodge is 1-800-635-5807 or (559) 683-6555. From Fresno to the Lodge is just over an hour more or


style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Information competency style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'> (Ross). style="mso-spacerun: yes">


  1. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Ross reported that he
    had a grant from his campus to develop a program of information competency
    for students in Sociology. He is
    having an open workshop on 6/1-6/2.
    This would produce ideas that one can consider for classroom
    use. Some/all of these would go on
    the TRD, which he would like to restructure in Summer, 2001. style="mso-spacerun: yes">


style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Kudos style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'> (Emenhiser). style="mso-spacerun: yes">


  1. style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks to Ted Lascher
    for an excellent student research conference and for being SSRIC chair in


style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>Adjournment for lunch style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt'>– 11:45 a.m.


on the minutes to Ted Anagnoson, style='font-size:10.0pt'>tanagno@calstatela.edu
. style="mso-spacerun: yes">